I guess, if the shoe fits, I've got to wear it. Then again, if doing what I do makes me an a**hole, then I'm proud to be one, just like Dennis is. The NFOA members didn't heed the warning from their so-called webmaster and continued their personal attacks on me so I posted my last comment last night and bid them adeu. Then, the webmaster emailed me to let me know I was banned from their forum (sort of like firing someone after they quit). He actually came here to my blog and copied one of the responses to a comment that he claimed was a personal attack on all NFOA members. Of course, he didn't bother to post the body of my blog for that day, which would have explained, and perhaps mitigated the comment, for those who only saw what he copied and pasted on their forum.
Someone else there accused me of not posting his comments to my blog in order to make me out a hypocrite (I guess) for expecting to be allowed to post dissenting opinions on their forum, and not allowing them on mine. However, he must not have known how to make a comment here and done something wrong, as I (the moderator) never was notified of a pending comment.
I suppose some of them have read my blog here and taken offense at some of the things I said, even though I never named any names when I characterized some in the association as people who might put gun owners and 2A supporters in a bad light to the public in general. I guess if the shoe fits, they must wear it, too.
I would welcome debate on most any issue. Many of them claimed to enjoy a good debate, too. However, rather than bring up counter points and arguments of their own, many of them resort to ridicule and harassment. If any of them want to come here and make a civil comment that is aimed at supporting a contrary opinion rather than simply bashing those they don't agree with, I'd be happy to post them.
There are a number of NFOA members who are willing to debate the issues, and know how to do it properly. I don't mean to characterize the entire organization poorly. As with many types of public forums, those who speak the loudest and most often are usually at the extremes, or those who want change rather than the status quo. Therefore, they don't truly represent the whole very well. My apologies to any NFOA members who have not displayed the rude behaviors and intollerance I have ascribed to some in the group.
I see someone voted on my poll for the no restrictions option; most likely one of the NFOA members since Trevor is about the only other person reading this stuff. Not that I could say what his vote might be, but he would probably also make a comment supporting his stand. I must admit that I voted a second time, just to see if the "poll gadget" I added would allow it. Apparently, it does not allow multiple votes from the same computer, but probably has no way of knowing if the same person votes from different computers (which I did). So the results are skewed, but I'm thinking it's not going to mean much anyway with only two voters so far.
I'd really like to have the ability to conduct some polls where the results had real meaning. There are often questions that come up where I suspect how most people feel, but it is only my suspicion (which could be entirely wrong). I would really like to know how people feel about many issues, and there aren't always scientifically designed polls out on the subjects that concern me. I think I could write the proper questions so as not to bias the poll, but I need a way to get a truly random, or otherwise appropriate sample to survey.
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Hopefully all is still well with your post at the National Rifle Association as an Election Volunteer Coordinator? Although I guess there would be a great deal of overlap between the two groups, they surely can't "universal default" (a credit card term saying that if you miss a payment on one card, the rest in your wallet spike the interest rates) you?
You mentioned your ban from the forum, does that mean you are no longer a NFOA member?
Also on the computer banning issue: some Internet service providers use a "dynamic ip" that means you have a new, random computer "address" every time you start your computer and connect to the Internet. IP banning is a blunt and ineffective way to keep someone off the forum, so you can always go back by using another computer or a web proxy --if you really even want to.
Finally, sorry to hear that this couldn't be resolved with the NFOA membership: the more in-fighting there is between members, the less credible the groups looks to opponents and the less energy is spent on advancing the rights of gun owners and their allies in Nebraska.
Trevor:
I don't think the NRA will even know about my association with NFOA unless someone from there complains about me to them. Even then, I think they would at least hear my side of the story. There are undoubtedly some NRA members who also belong to NFOA; however, there are also a lot of NRA haters in the group. I doubt if NRA will hold this against me. If they do, so be it. Both groups have then lost an avid volunteer for promoting the cause. If my NRA contact doesn't get on the stick soon, I may just forget the whole deal with them anyway. I don't know if the guy is truly so busy he can't adequately serve his customers, or if he's one of those people who is so unorganized they are lucky to get anything done in a timely manner. Either way, I'm not going to whine and beg to get him to work with me.
If I have to, I'll simply go back to doing what I can as an individual to promote the cause and try to mitigate the damage done by the extremists in the group.
You're probably right about being able to get back on the NFOA forum under a different name from another computer if I wanted to. I don't.
If the NRA thing does pick up and go like I had hoped, the tiff with NFOA could come back to haunt me. Que sera sera.
I appreciate your comments, Trevor. It seems like the Chief's Corner has gotten bogged down in statistics and rather mundane events lately. I noticed the Nebraska Game and Parks web site has a forum, mostly for hunting/fishing related issues, but they are not allowing new registrations for some reason, so I can't get on there to piss anyone off. :)
I guess I'll just go shoot something to vent my frustrations!
Trevor (or anyone else):
If you didn't realize it, the title of this post is a link to the Dennis Leary "Asshole" song. You might enjoy it.
It is spelled Denis Leary and this individual rants quite allot. Similar to your 255 postings on the NFOA forum since joining July 13, 2009.
Quote from Denis Leary's song AH.
"No, I've gotta go out and have fun At someone else's expense."
It sure seems that was your only reason for posting on the NFOA forum. And yes those words may some day haunt you.
I misspelled someone's name (which is normally spelled the way I spelled it). At least I didn't make up words, like "allot", which you and your fellow NFOA members seem to use a lot.
The only reason I allowed your comment is so others could see exactly the kind of personal attacks I was trying to describe. It seems to me that you must enjoy ranting yourself, since you went to the trouble of coming here to further your attacks on me, when I have already left your "territory" where you seem to think your opinions are the only ones that have a right to be heard.
Don't bother trying to comment further unless it meets the criteria I mentioned in this post. Unlike your webmaster, I won't let this turn into a shouting match of accusatoins and name calling.
Okay, "allot" isn't a made up word, but it does not have the meaning that anonymous intended for it to have in his sentence. Generally, his NFOA friends spell it "alot" a lot of the time.
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